Comments on: SSD Flash Hard Drives – Shmoocon 2008 – Part 1

By: flashforensics

flashforensics — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:01:39 +0000

Continuing to make 1k……
(SFFA, I did actually like your animations of the little flash stick, which program did you use for that?)
Get hold of some manufacturers ‘internal’ Nand-flash data sheets.
Also I might be working on a ‘novel’ solution to a number of your highlighted situations, and those damned fake USB stick devices from China.

By: flashforensics

flashforensics — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:53:55 +0000

with only 500 characters that just aint possible.
Read:
1.Novel Read Disturb Failure Mechanism Induced By FLASH Cycling.
2.Read disturb in flash memories: reliability case
3.Disturb Testing in Flash Memories
4.Data Remanence in Flash Memory Devices
Basically he is ‘way out’ on how cells are stacked.
it is the voltages that are stacked.
And I am sick of hearing people say it is 100,000 erases.
that was before, with thicker gates, now it can be as low as 1,000 (yep thats right)

By: SuperFlyFlippingA

SuperFlyFlippingA — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:10:32 +0000

I would love it if you would let me know what you think is incorrect. Could you give us all some details so we might learn from your experience?

By: flashforensics

flashforensics — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:48:36 +0000

I’m afraid some of this information is very wrong, which is sad considering he spent a ‘year’ on it.

By: BackyardSkunkworks

BackyardSkunkworks — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:54:47 +0000

IIRC They are.

By: arcelivez

arcelivez — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:44:23 +0000

Ok, cut the shit, will somebody tell me if these drives are actually faster than the normal hard drives?

By: plusrep

plusrep — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:37:50 +0000

so what is better? please let me

By: magikarp99

magikarp99 — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:14:48 +0000

Yes, I agree this is a truly excellent presentation.

The thing is, while what you say is true, DVD and Blu-Ray ARE read by optical drives, that is correct. But it ISN’T correct to call an SSD a solid state hard drive. People at ShmooCon are going to realise an SSD isn’t an optical drive.

By: amphibia

amphibia — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:02:14 +0000

great presentation

By: CandyHam

CandyHam — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:54:19 +0000

man you’re the best

No, you are correct, they aren’t, but they serve the same purpose and people are just calling the Solid state hard drives. When a person hears optical drive, they know you’re talking about a drive where you insert media such as DVD or Blu-ray. When you say hard drive though, they KNOW you’re talking about the drive you never put anything into; the drive that your OS is on, your applications are on, and your porn is on (for most of us).